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14.04.2008, 19:33 | #1 |
Митал Хардкор Ревендж
Репутация: 70
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Ignite, Deviant, Humble Opinion, Bread'n'Battery
14 мая Киев SkyHall Начало в 17.30 Вход 100 гривен Добро пожаловать всем)))) Для тех кому интересно шо такое Девиант заходите http://www.myspace.com/xdeviantxua Качество пластмасовое но все же. Последний раз редактировалось SubwaySun; 02.05.2008 в 15:09. |
10.05.2008, 19:32 | #193 |
Митал Хардкор Ревендж
Репутация: 70
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Ответ: Ignite, Death Before Dishonor, BurnThe8Track, Deviant
Пишу я:
dear Christian. the main atracttione for Kids mainly Death befor Dishonore not Ignite!thats why i have to cancel the show becouse not so much kids will attend the show!!!probably show without DBD will be not profitable!i don't have chance to cover the loses!!!if it's posible to make show both bands(DBD & Ignite).it's very important for us!! reply asap sincerly Vasya Пишет Юта: hallo, sorry, but it is not possible. we don't have visa to drive to kiev thru belarus. and to draive around does not work, it's too long. only ignite can come cause they fly from germany to kiev anyway. ute Добавлено через 2 минуты Пишу Я: do we need to pay for the airline tickets for ignite or just to cover the expenses for food and fee? why cannot dbd just come to kiev alone by train what is pretty quick in this case and not expensive at all? and leave kiev at may 14th and here's the main thing - we have a deal and a signed contract (incl. 1000EURO fee, food, hotels etc.) we sent you. it all was strictly required by you - and we deed it in time. and now, when there's one week left, you say only ignite can come. and the expenses for this show now grow enormously... we will definitely have a negative money income... and it's like 2000EURO. we still cannot understand why do you change the rules of the game during the game? maybe riga and talinn are more important for you than we are? and it's not the question of sympathy - we fullfil our part of the deal and you have to fullfil yours... you were planning the tour and failed it, it's not our fault. we spent a branch of money for the promo of the show... if it all fails - we lose the trust to us from people just because of you Пишет Юта: the airline tickets for ignite are allready paid for. just food & fee. in your first email you asked me about a show for ignite, and that you get ignite for 1.000 euro that has not changed. it onmly changed that they fly now, but that is our problem not yours. you only have to pick them up from the airport now. but I don#t think that could be such a big problem. we had to change it because our bus company is not allowed to get into the ukraine with their trailer, first of all. secondly we only got the visa for belöarussia for two days, so we can not go thru anymore afterwards. so it is just not possible. we are not gods, we can't make impossible possible! I think we have more than fullfilled from our side, because we baught flight tickets for 1018 euro's for ignite, just so we can fullfill the contract, while we are only getting 1000 euro's fee. so we loose on this show, but we did our best to make it happen! we are doing tours since 18 years now, we naver had so bad problems with visas and driving permissions, like we have now. I think the government just don't want american bands in ukraine & belarussia, I have no other explanation for that. it took us forever and tons of money to get a visa at all. but we did it, because we want to bring the bands to the people in your countries... Пишу Я: well ute, i really don't like the situation that's happening now, same you do i think. in on of your first letters you told there'll be three bands on tour. it was sent to me on Fri, 11 Apr 2008, here it is - "sorry, my internet was broken half of the day... let me answer your questions: 1. there'll be ignite, dbd and burnthe8track on tour, yes? yes 2. when do you come to kiev? on 14th of may or maybe the day before? probably allreadythe ay before 3. your cell phone number needed to keep connection when you come to kiev I can give you the number of the tourmanager, ok? 4. do we cover your gasoline expenses? or it's included in that 1000EURO? it's included 5. what will you eat and drink? well, the rider actually I will send that to you, I know it is alot, it is the standard, you can tell me what is possible and what not 6. we must pay in USD or in EUR ? euro 7. how many people icluding bands will be in the road crew? 21 what is the name of the venue? and we need the contract address. ute" this letter says there'll be not only ignite, it's your words. and let it be, we'll meet ignite and fullfil your conditions, but really i don't know the law that says it's forbidden to enter our country with sound equipment. we had angelreich about a month ago and they brought they brought their own backline with them. they only had to declare it on the border, which took them 1hour and no problems at all... and still we are ready to give you a full backline, even if you don't come by bus. you see, people from all over ukraine and russia come to us not just for ignite but for dbd as well (probably even more for dbd), and if only one band comes - i can surely say there'lll be twice less people, that's not acceptable for us at all, cuz there'll surely be a huge financial loss. i just cannot understand why do dbd have to go to vilnius? why cannot they go to ukraine by train? it is pretty cheap, fast and no need in visas. we are ready to pay for railway tickets, food and fullfil all the conditions mentioned in their rider. and then let lithuanian guys bring them to vilnius from kiev with airlines. try to make everything possible to bring dbd to us - it's of great importance for us nad we expected them here from the very beginnig! waiting for the answer, regards Пишет ЮТА: that they can't get the trailer in the ukraine has nothing to do with vilnius. that is not our fault, that is the terms of the government! same thing for belarus and visas. call them, if you can have them go thru, than they come. but doubt it! I can not do anything about it and I seriously dont understand why you can't understand this??? how much more can I explain? lets come to a point. the discussion leads to nothing. fact is that I cant get the bus with the trailer into the ukraine and fact is that I cant get thru belarus for the return. if you have an idea how to get the band there, fine, tell me. otherwise I will now cancell the show and take it off the website and post it in the news, so people don#t travel from all over and are disappointed that the show does not happen. I think that is just fair to the people. Добавлено через 1 минуту И ЮТа добовляет: how about if you take dbd in june? fly them form poland or germany Пишу Я: well, here's what we have at the moment - 1. we make a show for ignite with all the conditions mentioned in your previous mailing 2. we are also ready to book dbd for june, coming to us from poland. please send us the details about it. regards Добавлено через 8 минут Короче пацаны,мы сделали все от нас возможное... Почему цена остается та же? потому что так или иначе людеи без дбд придет меньше,а гонорар в 1000 евро,еда 300-400 у.е и гостинеца 500 у.е. А теперь даваите посчитаем,гонорар 1700 у.е+400+500=2600 Если в лучшем случае приходит 200 человек,считаем 200*на 100=20000 гривен,50% отдаю скаи холу= 10000,то есть 2000 у.е ОТ затрат 2600-2000=600 попадалава,это для нас оптимальный варинт Если придет 100 человек то попадем на 1600 всего лиш))))) Мы не хера не пытаемся на этом заработать,мы могли бы вообще отказатся от игнаит,но мы решили хоть поклоников этои команды не разочоровывать! Извени за грубость но это все делается для вас,я не милионер и зарабатываю не оч много денег,если бы у нас была возможность мы бы и по 35 гривен вход сделали!!! Последний раз редактировалось xVaskax; 10.05.2008 в 19:32. Причина: Добавлено сообщение |
10.05.2008, 19:56 | #197 |
mp3 128 kbps
Репутация: 1
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Ответ: Ignite, Death Before Dishonor, BurnThe8Track, Deviant
а так не прийдешь, нет?
Вася красавчик)) я не берусь так судить.. судя по разговору там у них какая-та муть, которою, наверно, можно было бы решить, но толи не хотят, толи что-то мешает главное, что все-таки можно будет выцепить дбд летом!! |
10.05.2008, 23:10 | #202 |
thrash 'til death
Репутация: 27
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Ответ: Ignite, Death Before Dishonor, BurnThe8Track, Deviant
пиздец. ну тур менеджер походу максим местный. ему же пару раз сказали пусть чуваки фигачат на поезде. без бэклайна. ага. хуй блять. просто пролистал эту часть наверное, когда читал. и че за подьеб с бэклайном? все группы заезжают, а америкосы, которые наверное даже круче льготы чем европейцы имеют на таможне, не могут. епта. я хуею. я хотел послушать БЗ8Т, а теперь что?! пиздец. ну хуйня.
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10.05.2008, 23:13 | #203 |
vinyl 7"
Репутация: 191
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Ответ: Ignite, Death Before Dishonor, BurnThe8Track, Deviant
так а игнайт шо, на самолете привезут свою технику?
и вообще, это по-моему, даже охуенно, Игнайт - главная группа вечера. И в жопу тот ДБД, хули. я, главное, надеюсь, что люди не будут жлобиться, а прийдут. и что бы вы пацаны не попали на бабос. |
10.05.2008, 23:54 | #206 |
digipack
Репутация: 441
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Ответ: Ignite, Death Before Dishonor, BurnThe8Track, Deviant
та пох, кто кого ждал...под ДБД угарим в июне...
мне лично даже нравицца, что вместе с Игнайт будет Хамбл Опинион и еще мелодик хк с Москвы...а не ДБД... попою на Игнайте и потанцую под братков-Девиантов.. |
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