xTrue Naturex

[what will remain]

Начну с того что записи этого проекта я искал где-то полгода. Потом уже не хватило терпения и я написал чувакам из этого проекта. Они со мной любезно поделились архивом с мп3 в отличном качестве. Единственная беда в том что он весит около 150мб. Но я думаю что для такой очаровательной музыки не жалко времени/трафика/и тд и тп.

Музыкально эта группа в раздел хардкор не вписывается совершенно, но я всетаки считаю что ей здесь самое место. Почему я разместил тему в хардкоре а не в каком то акустик кабаре вы поймете из описания.

Итак xTrue Naturex - это проект первоначально лишь одного человека которые называет себя xKeegan The Veganx. Как и зачем возник такой неординарный акустик проект? Киган был давним фанатом хардкор музыки,а именно таких групп как GATHER, ANCHOR, 7 GENERATIONS, EARTH CRISIS etc. Он любил эти группы за то что они поднимали проблемы насилия над животными,екологии,защиты людей и различных социальных проблем в своих песнях. В один день Кигану пришла в голову мысль что идеи веганства, екологии это очень хорошо, но не всегда они выигрывают от того что их пропагандируют с помощью хардкор музыки. Люди то разные и не всем нравится хардкор даже если он несет такой позитивный посыл. И что же он решает делать? Берет в руки акустику и начинает играть музыку которую он сам называет как веган едж акустик кор. Со временем к нему присоединяются его друзья из Веган Крю (община веганов которая живет в Северных Лесах Соединенных Штатов). Начинаются первые выступления. Они выглядят вот так.

С тех пор жизнь Кигана и его друзей превращается в скитания по разным странах и городах, они дают целую кучу выступлений и все заработанные деньги отдают в различные фонды помощи животным, детям. Так же друзья Кигана которые ездят с ним в туре держат огромнейшое дистро в котором вы можете приобрести все: начиная от веган косметики и заканчивая касетами Culture, дисками Maroon, винилами,футболками и прочим стаффом.
Вскоре ребята записывают гениальный альбом For The Innocent который пробирает до мозга и костей своей душевностью, искренностью и простыми но зажигающеми сердце мелодиями. Часть денег с продаж релиза идет на благие дела.

Группа едет в большой тур в поддержку альбома. Играют всюду - начиная от ночных клубов и заканчивая школьными залами и уличными переходами. По словам Кигана и компании главное это донести свои идеи до людей. И когда ему приходят письма со всего мира в которых люди говорят ему и ребятам спасибо за то что их музыка в какой то определенный момент изменила их, он понимает что делает все правильно и огонь в его сердце загорается с удвоенной силой.

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube- Be the change - xTrue Naturex

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

+ клип на песню For The Innocent

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

Состав:
Paul Messplay: Guitar
Oceans Miracle: Vocals.
Maxxx:Vocals, drums.
Amazing Grace: Vocals.
xKeegan The Veganx: Vocals, Guitar, Cello
Майспейс: www.myspace.com/xtruenaturexmusic (там же есть ссылка на текста)
Интервью: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/maruda/N...rue_nature.htm
Дискография:
xTrue Naturex - 2008 - For The Innocent

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Даже незнаю че еще добавить от себя...То что проект просто потрясающий я думаю все уже и так поняли. Спокойная приятная акустическая музыка с глубочайшими текстами которые откладываются в голове и сердце...Группа очень затронула меня и думаю затронет и вас.Кстати советую ознакомится с деятельностю Кигана и его друзей из веган общины поглубже - кроме музыки они еще авторы книг,интернет проектов,дистро и многое другое. Ознакомление советую начать в спокойной обстановке обязательно с песни FOR THE INNOCENT читая текст который вы найдете на спейсе (я кстати впервые эту песню услышал когда еще не знал об этом проекте в исполнении моего друга,который просек их раньше меня, отдыхая на природе.Тогда она прозвучала просто потрясно а сейчас она уже просто не выходит с головы). Вобщем я очень надеюсь что вы оцените творчество xTrue Naturex по достоинству. Ибо они того действительно стоят...

[denver]

Що занадто, то не здраво

[Костя]

Сообщение от xOLEGx

бля, я шоб не курить отрезал себе пальцы, губы и легкие

я не про вазектомию, а про их пролайф позицию и вообще мутные песенки

[Lanz]

А тексты у кого-то есть?

[James Earl Jones]

Lyrics

ONE SPECIES

And I scream, cause each one of them there is a part of me.
And I rage, cause I'm locked with them inside that cage.
Cause I don't see a difference between the multitude of species. They feel pain I feel pain. They all just want to live. Just like me.

And when are we going to see, that there's no difference in suffering.
One species, were all the same.
Were all sentient beings.

When they bleed I bleed.
And when they scream I scream.
When they are abused they're doing it to me and you.
And if you want peace then we have to stop supporting.

And when are we going to see, that there's no difference in suffering.
One species, were all the same.
Were all sentient beings.

And how long are we going to go on, with the abuses?
Go vegan, cause the animals don't need your petty excuses.
Imagine if it was your baby that they were taken away.
Imagine if it was your life all your brothers and sisters intensely confined.
Could you imagine being boiled alive?
Could you imagine being slaughtered just for your hid?
Could you imagine being viewed just as a product and in the end being senselessly murdered?

And when are we going to see that there's no difference in suffering?
One species, were all the same.
Were all sentient beings.
And when are we going to see that there's no difference in suffering.
One species were all the same.
Were all trying to avoid pain.

BE THE CHANGE

Watch your TV and kill your brain.
Drink your beer and point the blame.
Smoke your cigarettes down to the stubs.
Getting trashed like a bunch of slobs.
You complain about the government and everything they say,
But don't you realize with your Anheuser Busch and Phillip Morris you're buying in?

Go to school, go to work, go to sleep, pay your rent.
Don't you see you're turning out like your parents?
Go to college, get a job, and buy a house and drive a car.
If you're lucky take your revolution and addictions along.
Have your life with all your thrills pay your taxes pay your bills.
Put yourself deeper into the grave.
Buy the shit that you don't need. Plant the corporate seed.
Can't you see you're keeping yourself enslaved?

Well I don't want to be part of your hypocrisy.
Cause I don't wanna support the things I say I hate,
cause that would make a hypocrite out of me.

See the protesters standing on the street, said they're fighting against global warming.
Then they jump into their cars and they drive away, I guess it's alright to support the things you say you hate.
I see the abortion doctors laying there in their blood, I hear the Christians screaming out "Well it's gods love".
We've got the peace-keeping missiles for fear, cause were fighting this war on terrorism.

You want the world to change, but you're going to stay the same.
You can't expect anything in a world full of apathy.

Like in the famous words of Gandhi, "be the change in this world that you want to see" The revolution doesn't start with your neighbor, the revolution starts with me.
Without the government, without the legislation, without the senate hearings without conglomerations, without the congress man or womyn, without the lobbyist, without the house or representatives, or the president. Without governor, mayor, school board or police, state or county jurisdiction, without your family.
Cause this revolution starts with me.
Cause I've got to be the change that I want to see.
And this revolution starts with me,
Cause I've got to be the change that I want to see.

IT KILLS YOU TO KNOW Lyrics by ANCHOR

It feels so unreal that we accept this to go on.
The pain and suffering that so many reduce to nothing at all.
I hold you responsible for the actions that you choose.
Cause you cant claim your innocense when you claim power over their lives.
How can anyone choose death before life?
So you turn your face away from the pictures.
You dont wanna see the horror in their eyes, you wanna go on just like before. Just like always. Putting whatever bodypart you want in your mouth without the moral conflict. I hear their screams, they are endless. I see them in pain from the torture, dying in the murdermachine that you support. Support without guilt or perspective. They once had a pulse, hearts that were beating. They felt, they saw and they lived. So beautiful and unique in their ways.

INDUSTRY OF WAR

War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
Well that's the way it appears to me,
but it's great for the economy
as we're building up this empire society.
Well the media's profiting from the world trade towers tumbling.
They're selling their primetime ads on this patriotic screen.
They're selling inaccuras, their lies and propaganda.
Rebroadcasting images from FOX, feed it to America through the idiot box.
Said War, what is it good for?

Well it's great for big business and building up the system, putting money in the pockets of the dirty politicians, said its great for steel and lumbering and building up this economy, and allowing us to keep our obsessions, bringing us out of this recession.
It's great for plane and automakers, dropping the bombs that keep us in danger. Violence is ripe this year, wouldn't it be great if we could market fear. We've got to clothe and house and feed and clean the military, we've got to give the housing to their workers and their families.

War, is an industry.
War, is part of the economy,
War, aint about diplomacy,
It's about our financial security.

American builders with their contracts,
Building up new homes that we're bombing in Iraq.
We've got the moral-less weapon manufactures,
Creating new disease and spreading the disasters.
Swollen bellies hide behind the curtain,
Filling up the tankers for Halliburton.
The media propagating lies,
Coming up with the new compromise.

War, is an industry.
War, is part of the economy,
War, aint about diplomacy,
It's about our financial security.

TOTAL LIBERATION Lyrics by GATHER

for every life for liberation / we're dedicated to bringing freedom for all enslaved / tear the blindfold from over your eyes / forget all that you thought you once knew / after 10, 000 years of telling lies / dedicated to spreading the truth / taking pride in this path that we tread / in defense of the earth / speaking out so the words of the voiceless can finally be heard / now's the time to take action for freedom / and justice deserved / FIGHT FOR LIFE / take a stand / for truth and compassion / there's no time to wait for change / show dedication / through your words and your actions / together we can end their suffering / TOTAL LIBERATION / smash hierarchy / don't buy into authority / strive for sustainability / resources are running out / discontent because we're not free / oppressors act out of greed / compassion and equality / are both necessary / reject the myths we were taught to believe / it's time to deprogram ourselves / question stereotypes and traditions / follow no gods, no masters / look at the root of racism, sexism, speciesism / and you'll see, it's all been fabricated to keep us apart / BREAK DOWN / THE BARRIERS / THAT ENSLAVE US ALL

PONO

Born into a cruelty industry.
Taken from his mother and sold into captivity.
Kidnaped at a few days of age to spend the rest of his life stretched out on a chain.

But your light is what will make them see.
Your light is what will set you free.
Your life will bring the change.
And your life will break that chain.

Left and abandoned, mistreated and abused.
So unsure of what would become of you.
And even though you were crying inside, your love still shone so bright

But your light is what will make them see.
Your light is what will set you free.
Your life will bring the change.
And your life will break that chain.

Your loneliness and craving for love, created a friend who just couldn't give up.
He made a promise staring into your sad eyes, that he couldn't just let you die.

And your light is what made him seen.
Your light is what will set you free.
Your life will bring the change.
And your life is what will break that chain.

Tirelessly he worked to set you free.
Doing anything he could to gain your liberty.
Cause to that promise he couldn't forget,
Cause for you it was a matter of life and death.
Well you pulled on his heart strings, you made his eyes tear,
you said "Marasia please don't leave me here. I don't want to die today. Please take me away."
So with strength and resolve and determination, he got your freedom, Animal Liberation.

And now you're free again. Returned to family and friends. And through it all came determination, to end this exploitation.

Pono we Love you. And Pono we know you Love us too.

FOR THE INNOCENT

And I can not sit quiet while the these murders and tortures persist.
You will hear my voice ring out against the injustices.
For every innocent being who lost or never had a voice, my strength of freedom can't be ignored.

Chorus
For the blood spilt of the innocent.
Who lost their lives to the ignorant.
With the malice of a laboratory worker.
For the billions senselessly murdered.
I am vegan.
For the innocent, who lost their lives to the ignorant.
With the callus of a slaughterhouse worker.
For the billions senselessly murdered.
I am Vegan.

And for those who would bury their heads in the sand rather than coming to terms with the violence they are supporting, my message will grow that much more important.
I don't preach for preaching is based on belief. Mine's a message of fact and truth, By eating meat, dairy and eggs you are directly supporting murder.

Chorus
So for the blood spilt of the innocent.
Who lost their lives to the ignorant.
With the malice of a laboratory worker.
For the billions senselessly murdered.
I am vegan.
For the innocent, who lost their lives to the ignorant.
With the callus of a slaughterhouse worker.
For the billions senselessly murdered.
I am Vegan.

I am Vegan for the innocent.
I live Vegan for the environment.
I live Vegan to help myself cleanse.
I live Vegan to bring this suffering to an end.
I live Vegan until the end.
I live Vegan.

INK UNDER YOUR SKIN.

Well, I've seen these friends, they've come and gone.
I watched their X's fade when sobriety lacked being fun.
They made a choice and a commitment, to forever remain drug free, for themselves, their family's their friends.

Even with Straight Edge tattooed across your chest,
the ink under your skin is the only thing remaining true till death.
You sold yourself like it was a fucking trend.
Now you've turned your back, so for us this is the end.

What does it feel like to be the person you said you hate?
And how do you deal with it every single day?
And I can't understand why you made the fucking change.
but now you've turned your back on everything.

People say to me, "lighten up, it's a personal choice."
That's where I shake my head and I raise my voice.
How can you say that this means nothing?
I'll show you why I forever remain Drug Free.

For every person killed by a drunk driver,
I remain Straight Edge.
And for every kid beaten by his alcoholic father,
I made this commitment for them
And for every home torn apart by a drug addict.
I remain Straight Edge.
And for every rape and molestation.
I remain Straight Edge.
I remain Straight Edge.
You turned your back on them, for that I will never forget.
You turned your back on the countless victims, for that your guilty.

Comes back down

100 million children sleeping on the streets tonight.
They didn`t choose this fate but they must struggle to survive.
How many of them will starve before you see than an
unconceived child is not as important as those already living?
How would you explain to a neglected child that you have the
wealth, the strength, the love to save their life, but instead
you`ll create an image of yourself and allow them to die?
Allow them to die.

And it comes back down to this.

Why would you bring a child into a world that`s dying?
Where all is becoming toxic from the soil. Water even the air
that we breathe. Seems like a horrible gift as your legacy, but
you still procreate continually.
Out of respect for the earth`s resources that we exploit, we
need to stem our flow because we`re not alone. We have the
right to be here but not everywhere at once. We have the
right to live but not to destroy the earth.

And it comes back down to this.
And all I hear are justifications based on your own arrogance,
your selfishness and laziness, a false pretense of social
dominance, and all I see is them still suffering.

And it comes back down to this.
And it comes back down to over population.
So until every orphaned child has a loving family,
until we learn to coexist with each other peacefully,
until we`ve reconciled this environmental damage that we`ve
reeked, do I think we have any right to breed.
No.
No right at all.

Stolen Children. Stolen Lives.

You take a mothers baby away with every act of indifference.
Mother and child cry out in pain over the forced separation.
And they`ll scream on for days trying to find each other in vain.
Because a mother`s bond is strong regardless of the species.

And her male children will be forced into wooden crates.
Deprived of all sun light and their mother`s warm embrace.
They won`t even survive more than 90 days,
before they`re dragged to slaughter to wind up on your plate.
And her daughters will be subjected to rape.
Forcibly and permanently kept pregnant.
They will suffer their mother`s same fate.
To have their baby`s stolen so that they lactate.

And you wouldn`t even wish this on your own worst enemy,
even in times war.
So what could`ve a beautiful creature done for this to be deserved?

And all I can hope is that you see that this is the reality
when you support an industry like diary.
They break a sacred bond that exists between a mother and her child.

The Middle Passage

Taken from my one true love.
My family and I forced onto the waiting truck.
We yell out all our protest, scream until we`ve got nothing left.
Our cries of pain fall on deaf ears.
We all struggle to breathe while suppressing our greatest fears.

Four long days into the nights we travel.
Cramped together without food or water.
The horror as I watch my mother die.
She`s shaking, freezing to death at night.
Her body would fall, if it wasn`t for us holding her up.
And more go the same. As we barrel down this endless highway.

The smell of blood fills the air.
Followed by the anguished cries of uor sisters/
We enter through the gates of hell and we`re there.
And we are ALL there.

Oh what a life I`ve lived.
Of what a life I`ve been given.
My children stolen from me again and again.
A lifetime of service for your kind and this is the end I get?
I hear my sister`s blood choked sobs.
The smell of my death fills my lungs.
I scream to myself where is god?
And how could I have ever been excluded from your love.
Where is your love?

Another Bottle Emptied ("Firestorm" cover)

She cries out in pain over her dead mother.
The bottle`s laying there like the millions others.
He`s bleeding again from his drunken fathers wounds.
He swears he`ll never come home again when his dad`s been drinking.

And it kills me to know that we live in an age
where multibillion dollar corporations profit from their suffering.

She`s sleeping in a hospital bed tonight with her broken neck and broken legs.
His drunken eyes never saw her riding home that dark night.
And this young girl never learned wrong from right.
Saw her mother abused, cover it up with make up, go back out onto the street to feed that addiction tonight.

Born addicted, beaten and neglected. Families torn apart,
destroyed and abandoned. Children sell their bodies from
their high they fall to drown. Demons crazed by greed, cut by strander`s down.
Street by street, block to block. Taking it all back.
The youth immersed in poison turn the tide, counter attack.
Violence against violence let the round ups begin.
A firestorm to purify the bane tha society drowns in.
No mercy, no exceptions. A declaration of total war.
The innocents defense the reason it`s waged for.

And to support an industry that keeps millions upon millions enslaved,
is to side with the abusers and neglect the innocent suffering.
You`re guilty to me.

Our Mother

Our hope and our mother,
our source of all life.
It`s for her that we stand up to defy the system that is killing her,
to the system that is killing us all.
From the poisoned veins of all rivers.
To the clear cut forest on her shoulders.
To the blackened sky`s of industry.
It`s killing her and it`s killing me.
To the toxic waste of land fills
to the dead seas from oil spills.
to the ravaged soils of chemical Ag.
We`ve taken everything and given nothing back.

Our choices and our actions are what determine our fate.
Choose your level of involvement to participate
in the destruction of her and this murder.
Or dedicate yourself to actions to save our mother earth.

Save our mother earth
Stop killing her creation.
Save our mother Earth.
Stop killing children.

No other industry comes closer
to total planetary inhalation
than animal agriculture.
The amount of resources that
you squander with each animal
consuming bite is enough to
keep 16 starving people alive.
In a world where millions die for
the lack of clean water 625 gallons is required for your
quarter pound burger.
More air pollution is caused by cattle alone than the entire
combined enissions of the world`s vehicles.

Neo-Abolitionist

I said we`re rising up to tear them down.
Their industries of misery.
They can`t stop us now,
cause we will work above and underground,

And though they may try to murder us,
silence us with imprisonment.
They can`t stop this rising tide,
because we are willing to die for this,
they are willing to kill for it,
but we will never quit!

From the dawned ski mask, to the leaflet.
From the open liberation`s, to the congressman.
We`re building up an army of compassion,
Cause we are the Neo-Abolitionist!

Neo-Abolition.
We`ll proudly take our place in a long line of radical
resistance to end enslavement.
As we walk in the footsteps of Tubman and Douglass,
Hearing the echoed cries of Thoreau`s, Gandhi`s, and King`s.
We are the final generation to bring true equality.
Freedom for all!
And not just our own.
Freedom for all.
And that`s every species of this world.
Freedom!

Intent On Destruction

Watch your best friend, they`re passing out.
25 milligrams to pump their stomach out.
I.V..dripping steadly unlike the E.K.G.
Heart rate erratic with extremes of body heat.
Muscles start to tremble as the nervous system fails,
sets in brain damage as their body`s going pale,
mother and father stand alone and cry and watch their little baby die.

The doctor walks into the waiting room,
bringing with him an unconscious gloom.
Mother sinks into her own great depression,
Father works hard to figure out god`s lesson.
And what about you can you do it again?
Rush to the hospital with an unconscions friend
And I know this wasn`t how it was suppose to be,
but to think this all happened for a fucking party!

And for what?
And for what did you prove?
That you care nothing for your loved ones in anything you do.
You lost, their loss. Nothing will ever be the same..

If It Were You?

Born into a cage to die.
And your first ur family memories are being crowded together with your family.
All you know is that the incessant florescent lights,
They burn your tiny, sensitive eyes.
And upon reaching size,
you`re lifted by cold hands
to a new world of pain and fear.
And in the light, the needle stabs like being cut with a knife.
And you scream and you pull against your abusers hands, but
there is no doing.
And the pain feels like it will surely kill you as your family dies.

What would you want someone to do for you, if this was the
living hell you were forced to endure with no way out?

Your blood stains on this metal cage and you try to catch your breath.
But the injection seems like a lethal one and you`re suffocating to death.
But as your vision blurs you see the others peering at you through their bars.
You can smell the fear that permeates the air,
You pray for this nightmare to be over.
But as your body writhes you lay curled with clenched eyes wishing for the end.

But this horrors persist with nowhere to run, they don`t call
it torture its`s vivisection.

What would you want someone to do for you if this was the
living hell you were forced to endure with no way out?

Would you care about movement?
Would you care about public opinion?
Would you care about anything?
Or would you only focus on your liberation by any means?

And what would you want someone to do for you if this was
the living hell you were forced to endure with no way out?

[свернуть]

[xOLEGx]

кто то писал о глубоких текстах, так пусть ознакамливается с лучшей русской поэзией, а не подобной нагло-саксонской ссаниной

[Blood X Green]

Сообщение от Костя

я не про вазектомию, а про их пролайф позицию и вообще мутные песенки

а я себе голову ломал, что за посягание на права... было бы просто отлично, если бы были пролайф, но... нет, тут ты ошибся. почитай интервью, что ли. на мой вопрос он ответил, что не считает, что аборты - абсолютно плохая, или абсолютно хорошая вещь, по различным причинам. он не считает их этичными, но сверх-популяция людей его не радует.

в остальном - что за мутные песенки? давай конкретней, зачем воду лить? или из-за строчки про аборты ты автоматом его песни причислил к мутной хуйне?

по поводу вазэктомии, я тоже не особо нормальным это считаю, лучше действительно член не совать куда ни попадя, но опять же - его выбор.

[Костя]

Сообщение от Blood X Green

в остальном - что за мутные песенки? давай конкретней, зачем воду лить? или из-за строчки про аборты ты автоматом его песни причислил к мутной хуйне?

Watch your TV and kill your brain.
Drink your beer and point the blame.
Smoke your cigarettes down to the stubs.
Getting trashed like a bunch of slobs.
You complain about the government and everything they say,
But don't you realize with your Anheuser Busch and Phillip Morris you're buying in?

Go to school, go to work, go to sleep, pay your rent.
Don't you see you're turning out like your parents?
Go to college, get a job, and buy a house and drive a car.
If you're lucky take your revolution and addictions along.
Have your life with all your thrills pay your taxes pay your bills.
Put yourself deeper into the grave.
Buy the shit that you don't need. Plant the corporate seed.
Can't you see you're keeping yourself enslaved?

Well I don't want to be part of your hypocrisy.
Cause I don't wanna support the things I say I hate,
cause that would make a hypocrite out of me.

See the protesters standing on the street, said they're fighting against global warming.
Then they jump into their cars and they drive away, I guess it's alright to support the things you say you hate.
I see the abortion doctors laying there in their blood, I hear the Christians screaming out "Well it's gods love".
We've got the peace-keeping missiles for fear, cause were fighting this war on terrorism.

You want the world to change, but you're going to stay the same.
You can't expect anything in a world full of apathy.

Не, ну серьезно.

[Filthcum]

Какого хуя вообще мужчины рот открывают по поводу абортов?

[Чех]

Костя, всеравно я так и не понимаю твоей неприязни. Я не видел призывов стерилизоваться. То что ты привел в текстах, хз даже, давайте начнем разбирать текста миллиарда анархо групп, где вообще бред несется.


xOLEGx, к слову, химическая стирилизация это не отрезание члена. В америке очень во многих семьях когда они больше не хотят иметь детей, мужчины проходят эту процедуру. Секс остается, но без возможности забеременеть.

[Костя]

Сообщение от Чех

Я не видел призывов стерилизоваться.

Я б стерелизировался запросто, это удобно и клево, тем более сйеасч можно не навсегда, а просто пережать семенной канал. Я к тому - пускай он в чужую пизду не глядит просто.

Сообщение от Чех

давайте начнем разбирать текста миллиарда анархо групп, где вообще бред несется.

Я просто не слушаю такое, а здесь на глаза попалось и порадовало.

[Blood X Green]

Сообщение от Filthcum

Какого хуя вообще мужчины рот открывают по поводу абортов?

Они забыли спросить у тебя, извини. Считать аборт (при том, далеко не каждый) неэтичным и говорить об этом - это ужасно?

[George Tabb]

безусловно да

[YMHL HMHC]

Чех, так смотри он же поет

said they're fighting against global warming.
Then they jump into their cars and they drive away, I guess it's alright to support the things you say you hate.

как же он в туры ездит?

[Костя]

Сообщение от sashasasha

как же он в туры ездит?

На бамбуковом велосипеде, я ж говорил.

[Чех]

Сообщение от sashasasha

как же он в туры ездит?

Ну, в прошлом году он ехал на американском бобике времен второй мировой войны. Или как минимум начала авганской. Где он его достал, никто не знает)))

[denver]

Сообщение от Чех

Ну, в прошлом году он ехал на американском бобике времен второй мировой войны. Или как минимум начала авганской. Где он его достал, никто не знает)))

Экологически верное решение проблемы гагага.

[Чех]

Он был переделан на масло если не ошибаюсь.

[denver]

Золотые руки

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Так он в прямом смысле слова переделал автомобиль на масло и добирался до концертных точек исключительно за счет скольжения?

[Чех]

Ну я знаю многих по всей европе кто ездит на масле. Впринципе это здорово.

[oggi]

ну а к нам он плывет на каноэ ?

[Drake de Vendeur]

за всем этим обсуждением текстов и жизненной позиции группы никто так ничего и не сказал о хуевейшей музыке)
странно, что нет сплита с Укропом

[YMHL HMHC]

Сообщение от Drake-4310588

за всем этим обсуждением текстов и жизненной позиции группы никто так ничего и не сказал о хуевейшей музыке)
странно, что нет сплита с Укропом

я не слушал честно. только тексты читал

[Vegan]

Тошно читать всю эту инфантильную хуйню, которую вы понаписывали. Музыка и тексты - ок, русская поэзия - лучшая, за сделанные аборты нужно пиздить повинных самцов и ломать им, блядям с членом, конечности в трех местах.

[Костя]

Сообщение от Vegun

Тошно читать всю эту инфантильную хуйню,

Вова, при всем уважении - инфантильная хуйня в текстах.

Go to school, go to work, go to sleep, pay your rent.
Don't you see you're turning out like your parents?
Go to college, get a job, and buy a house and drive a car.

Я хочу быть как мои родители, а не как он, мне похуй.

[Vegan]

И вазектомия - это не отрезание члена, знатоки, блядь.

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Сообщение от Костя

Вова, при всем уважении - инфантильная хуйня в текстах.

Go to school, go to work, go to sleep, pay your rent.
Don't you see you're turning out like your parents?
Go to college, get a job, and buy a house and drive a car.

Я хочу быть как мои родители, а не как он, мне похуй.

У множества хардкор и панк-групп схожий посыл, а панк-рок взрос на отрицании вышеперечисленного. Или говним всех, или никого.

[Костя]

Сообщение от Vegun

И вазектомия - это не отрезание члена, знатоки, блядь.

Я лично такого не писал и считаю что это ярко.

Сообщение от Vegun

У множества хардкор и панк-групп схожий посыл, а панк-рок взрос на отрицании вышеперечисленного. Или говним всех, или никого.

Взрос или нет, но это не обязывает меня быть лояльным к тому что мне не по душе. У всех своя голова на плечах.

[Triple Threat]

Сообщение от Drake-4310588

за всем этим обсуждением текстов и жизненной позиции группы никто так ничего и не сказал о хуевейшей музыке)
странно, что нет сплита с Укропом

Укроп-то своим хуем много кого подлечил и в анархию обратил из женского полаыыыыыы

[xOLEGx]

vegun - защитник сирых и убогих полудурков, эхх

[Drake de Vendeur]

Сообщение от Triple Threat

Укроп-то своим хуем много кого подлечил и в анархию обратил из женского полаыыыыыы

лол

[Filthcum]

Сообщение от Blood X Green

Они забыли спросить у тебя, извини. Считать аборт (при том, далеко не каждый) неэтичным и говорить об этом - это ужасно?

на мой вопрос он ответил, что не считает, что аборты - абсолютно плохая, или абсолютно хорошая вещь, по различным причинам. он не считает их этичными, но сверх-популяция людей его не радует.

Начну, пожалуй, с того, что счастливый обладатель мужского тела вообще абсолютно не понимает всех эмоциональных и физических переживаний женщины, когда она сталкивается с проблемой аборта. Я сам, конечно, не в праве быть в этом уверенным на 100%, но, почему когда стоит вопрос аборта - все дальнейшие обсуждения касаются только потенциального ребёнка, а не его матери? Просто меня реально блядь очень бесят всякие такие панк-рок теоретики (и мужского и женского пола), которые направо и налево пиздят о том, что правильно и что нет, ходят там на акции какие-то, доказывая что про-чойс - это нормальная тема, при этом ВООБЩЕ НИ РАЗУ не столкнувшись с этим. Вот моя бабушка сделала аборт в молодости и мать моей девушки, так им до сих пор снятся в кошмарах их мёртвый ребёнок и они всю жизнь страдают и никак не могут простить себе поступок, совершенный несколько десятков лет назад. То есть, я к тому, что даже если женщина делает аборт, в момент принятия решения она не может предвидеть, будет ли её грызть совесть и угнетать сомнения по поводу правильности её выбора или нет. Так вот, по-моему это тупо ебанутейшее лицемерие - рассматривать аборт теоретически как правильное решение проблемы "сверх-популяции людей", но ДАЖЕ не брать во внимание эмоциональные переживания и страдания конкретного человека, непосредственно матери ребёнка. Можно просто быть сознательными людьми, а не ублюдками, ебущимися на право и налево, не боясь последствий и думая "а хуле, потом аборт ебанём во имя сверх-популяции". Я не конкретно об этом человеке и группе, а так вобщем. И по-моему, аборты - абсолютно хуйовая вещь.