Я уже как-то писал: это две совершенно разные тусовки. Одна играет британский панк и шведский, другая - японский. И до начала 21 века эти сцены вообще не пересекались на концертах и вели нечто типа "холодной войны". Сейчас всё пришло в норму, и группы выступают на одних концертах, хотя идеологически они не совсем близки всё же.
Несколько абзацев про старое противостояние япкрасти и япкора обнаружил в интервью с Отто из Selfish:
http://old.czechcore.cz/index.php?w=10&kod_rew=8507
"Nowadays there aren´t anymore those idiotic divisions between the scenes but all punks, crusties and japcores go to any shows they ever feel like going to and have a great time together! The first Selfish tour was in spring 1998 and organized by crusties. It was well-organized but maybe not the best time to tour Japan anyway coz the scenes were not doing particularly well. I guess the highlights of the tour were the two last gigs in Yokohama and Tokyo where we had also some japcore audience as well as japcore bands to play with. We found much more in common with their raucous attitude than with the well-behaving, moderate crusties. No offense here, that´s just the way it looked like at that time and I am sure anyone outsider would agree with us. That time we made some good connections to the japcore scene that normally had been sort of hard to reach by foreigners. They were surprisingly nice (you know, they have this tough-guy attitude) and really flattered at our attempt to play music similar to theirs.
This resulted the second tour (May 1999) being organized by Burning Spirits. We toured a few weeks with Forward, Zone and Evance both left and right on the islands. It was a really amazing, interesting inside-view to the japcore scene. The gigs were really fucking great but that time also japcore scene was quite small and struggling with both internal and external pressures so now I can firmly say that this tour as well could have been even much better! The best places could have been Antiknock in Tokyo, and Flower and Dragon in Yokohama.
The reactions in Japan were never ecstatic but it´s actually not very easy to make a Japanese crowd to go nuts like the kids in Europe, US, or Brazil do. We were glad to get any reaction at all. Often they give you the positive feedback after the show -and if the merchandise does good it means they have liked your set.
The third tour (summer tour 2001) was booked by me, using my Japanese contacts. Asking individual friends to set up a show each. The experience was first of a kind done by a foreign band touring Japan and the locals called me a madman but I knew I could pull it off coz I had done it before elsewhere -and oh yeah it did work out just fine! We played an equal share of both japcore and crusties gigs and some of them had even quite boldly mixed line-ups with bands from both scenes but that was not a very smart move as the turnouts to those few gigs were smaller than normally. Some of the bands even caused a bit of a fuss not wanting to play with that other band from “the other scene” etc. childish crap… A nice exception was a gig in Tokyo with Rocky & The Sweden, Final Bloodbath, The Slowmotions, Abraham Cross, etc. which was a truly great night! Even the mighty Bastard played a short set that day! Anyway, I was always for the united scene so I kept pushing my views perhaps even too harshly and made some enemies that way. But look at the situation now: nowadays in Japan the crusties and japcores are one and it´s great!
From those times I thought some of the best live bands from Japan were Crude, Geshpenst, Liberate, Tetsuarei, Evance, S.D.S., Engrave, Zone, Paintbox, Judgement, Warhead, Naguri, Carrie, Dopamin, Rocky & The Sweden… and also some crusties such as Gloom, Framtid and Disclose."
Crude
просто этот фак многим умы попортил
(если на то пошло, то и в треш зоне япкору не место
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